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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by chute_pilot</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1135</link>
		<dc:creator>chute_pilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew, the first time I uploaded my Session to the DLS, I uploaded both the Session and the HTML as one group (it was an option). After that, when I made a few changes, I uploaded them individually. I don&#039;t know why your HTML wouldn&#039;t show up as ready to upload, unless they hadn&#039;t finished &#039;authorizing&#039; it.
Thanks for the hints!
Greg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, the first time I uploaded my Session to the DLS, I uploaded both the Session and the HTML as one group (it was an option). After that, when I made a few changes, I uploaded them individually. I don&#8217;t know why your HTML wouldn&#8217;t show up as ready to upload, unless they hadn&#8217;t finished &#8216;authorizing&#8217; it.<br />
Thanks for the hints!<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by Andrita</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 07:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uploads have been approved and should be on the DLS within 24 hours. Greg, when you uploaded your Cattle did you upload the HTML separately or was that included with the Session? My HTML didn&#039;t show in the ready for upload list so I assume it is already included in the Session. When you have SP1 up and running have a look at ECML with &#039;Edit Session&#039;. You will see what I mean about improvements. No need now to start at the end and work backwards. Start at the beginning and when you complete a section just indent the parent rules  one to the right and all the child rules will follow. The parent will be flagged as an error but this is ok. This has the same effect as commenting out a block of code that we&#039;re used to. When finished just indent the parents one to the left and all is restored.
Andrew]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uploads have been approved and should be on the DLS within 24 hours. Greg, when you uploaded your Cattle did you upload the HTML separately or was that included with the Session? My HTML didn&#8217;t show in the ready for upload list so I assume it is already included in the Session. When you have SP1 up and running have a look at ECML with &#8216;Edit Session&#8217;. You will see what I mean about improvements. No need now to start at the end and work backwards. Start at the beginning and when you complete a section just indent the parent rules  one to the right and all the child rules will follow. The parent will be flagged as an error but this is ok. This has the same effect as commenting out a block of code that we&#8217;re used to. When finished just indent the parents one to the left and all is restored.<br />
Andrew</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by locoone</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>locoone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 05:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just finished updating T12 with SP1 and 2 hot patches.
Had to reinstall T12 and then loaded the upgrades before running it.
Still updating the database  at present.
Be ready Andrew when you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished updating T12 with SP1 and 2 hot patches.<br />
Had to reinstall T12 and then loaded the upgrades before running it.<br />
Still updating the database  at present.<br />
Be ready Andrew when you are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by chute_pilot</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>chute_pilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 17:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My experiences with SP1 have been disappointing. In my case anyway, there was no way for stuff I created pre-SP1 to work post-SP1.
I am installing a clean #49922 which will then be updated to SP1 and both Hotfixes.
I&#039;d love to give your Session a run then.
Greg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experiences with SP1 have been disappointing. In my case anyway, there was no way for stuff I created pre-SP1 to work post-SP1.<br />
I am installing a clean #49922 which will then be updated to SP1 and both Hotfixes.<br />
I&#8217;d love to give your Session a run then.<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by locoone</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>locoone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 12:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron. I am in the process of doing this myself.
Unfortunately the original download of SP1 was corrupted so looks like a repeat performance tomorrow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron. I am in the process of doing this myself.<br />
Unfortunately the original download of SP1 was corrupted so looks like a repeat performance tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by Puffingbilly</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator>Puffingbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 01:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like I might have to install a clean T12 and patch it up and leave my existing one as is so I can still run the old RBR stuff!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I might have to install a clean T12 and patch it up and leave my existing one as is so I can still run the old RBR stuff!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by locoone</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>locoone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 23:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yer. Could it be the light at the end of the tunnel. I doubt it.
Probably a train coming the other way]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yer. Could it be the light at the end of the tunnel. I doubt it.<br />
Probably a train coming the other way</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by Jenolan</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 20:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Humpf .. you mean they have finally realised the editor was a load of crap and fixed it ... sheez wonders will never cease]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humpf .. you mean they have finally realised the editor was a load of crap and fixed it &#8230; sheez wonders will never cease</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by marjon</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>marjon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 09:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andrew, I will keep an eye out for it. John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew, I will keep an eye out for it. John</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shoutbox by Andrita</title>
		<link>http://jenolan.org/shoutbox/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 08:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John. I was anti-session for years as they were far too difficult to devise anything beyond a simple A to B run. SP1 has changed all that. With a vastly improved &#039;Edit Session&#039; it is much easier to come up with more complicated stuff. In spite of myself I&#039;m becoming a bit of a fan! I&#039;ve sent the route and session up to Auran and all being well will be on the DLS in a few days.
Andrew]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John. I was anti-session for years as they were far too difficult to devise anything beyond a simple A to B run. SP1 has changed all that. With a vastly improved &#8216;Edit Session&#8217; it is much easier to come up with more complicated stuff. In spite of myself I&#8217;m becoming a bit of a fan! I&#8217;ve sent the route and session up to Auran and all being well will be on the DLS in a few days.<br />
Andrew</p>
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